Wednesday, October 7, 2009

ahhmmm.. Please Do Not hate me

XI. “ Our Beloved brother”(Dickensian narrator)

This is the chapter following the finding of Nemo (Nimrod) by Mr Tulkinghorn at Nemo’s apartment after his death. The chapter deals with the crud factors of being a loner in the sense that no one really know who Nemo is other than a little boy, Jo, whom he occasionally gives to, the only thing that the by can state is that “He wos wery good to me, he wos!”(138). The importance of this chapter I believe is to give us some information on how this character is important and vital to the story by giving his DEATH AN ENTIRE CHAPTER! But since he has no ties( as of yet at least) to any important characters yet we can not draw the line of how important he is just yet. The inquisitive nature of certain characters lead me to believe so and so does his appearance in an early and the concerns of others in later chapters.

XII. ”On The Watch” (Dickensian narrator)

p145 Mockery of the court, to show how big of a joke it has become and how it has became a nuisance among the people because of its bureaucracy .p149 Mr. Tulkinghorn presented Nemo’s death to Sir Leicester and Lady Deadlock and it brought fourth an awkward vibe in the room that leads to the factor that Nemo must be important.

idk what to make of this but yea:

“ Mr. Tulkinghorn, we remember your existence when you are not here to remind us of it by your presence . We bestow a fragment of our minds upon you, sir, you see!” 147 Sir Leicester .Why?

**This chapter just gives me abrupt confused feelings of WTH!

XIII. Esther’s Narrative (Esther, Duh?)

Richard is confused and wishes to go into military service specifically Navy but then was suggested the army and did not dislike the idea. I believe he simply wanted to situate himself into a life where he feels he accomplishes something with his life after talking it over with Boythorn and Jarndyce he found himself selecting the occupation of a surgeon which was way off the original mark of being in the military. Through a connection with Mr Kenge’s cousin who is a surgeon Richard finds himself being his student later on. The nature of Richard’s choice may grow from a need to be able to stand on his own two feet and declare that he can stand alone (or with ada,lol).

pg154 Esther is being stalked by her beloved friend, Mr. Guppy, who is at every event that she is at. Esther states he has “ a general feebleness about him” which makes her uneasy, and does not allow her to focus on the plays that she attends. She is scared to tell anyone because she meant to mean him no harm but she wanted him to leave her alone. the reason that she may not be able to do anything normal may be that she does not know how to react to the opposite sex, we do not have any evidence leading in the other way telling us about her having any intimate relationships, although she does tend to be in everybody else’s relationships (i.e Richard and Ada, Prince and Caddy).

***Notable female Mrs. Badger, her greatest accomplishment is marrying 3 men that were “great”, that does not sound good in any context that one may try to put it in but is glorified, why?

Then the obvious is stated between Richard and Ada to Esther by Ada and she tells her how she is in love with Richard. Clearly Esther already knew as she has stated before that they “shared the greatest of secrets”, Esther wishes them to live happy and wishes to be the maid of honor. p 162 Mr Jarndyce is told of the relationship and he does not want to tell them that their love is not wrong and that he is only “friend and distant kinsman”. he is trying to maintain a close relationship with them by not denying them the chance to be together yet he condoles it in order to allow them to stay close to him so that he does not lose their trust and maybe affection as an elder who they can trust.

XIV. Deportment (Esther)

I love this quote by Esther, “I was to be made happy forever and a day”

Besides that caddy jellyby comes back on the scene to provide Esther with information that has to do with her hardships and that of those which her family shares against her mother whom is bleeding them to the poor house. Caddy is engaged to Prince Turveydrop who is the opposite of everything her mother wants Mr Quale, and she believes through him she can escape her life which she believed is damned because she considers herself a slave to her mother . The older Turveydrop, prince’s father, is a complete d---he and has this ultimately dooming façade of “deportment" that embodies his horrid persona.

On page 180 also name the Miss Flite’s names for her birds “ Hope, Youth, Peace, Rest, Life, Dust, Ashes, Waste, Want, Ruin, Despair, Madness, Death, Cunning, Folly, Words, Wigs, Rags, Sheepskin, Plunder, Precedent, Jargon, Gammon, and Spinach” and s there was a reference to them and the cat earlier in the early chapters this could reference the chancery and what it gives and takes away.

181-182 Krook’s unwillingness to learn to read and write from someone else may not so much that he does not want to be taught wrong but instead be told that he was wrong, admitting to something that awful already makes him a target for ridicule being taunted for it would be even worse.

182 reference by surgeon that Krook was almost always drunk.(interesting I believe)

XV. BELL Yard (Esther)

mr skimpole gets into a rant of three children(Tom Emma, Charolette), the Coavinses, who are left to there own antics because of the passing of their father. Jarndyce is in a panicked frenzy and goes them immediately upon arrival he cannot help ask but why people do not help them and it is because her father was a follerer and she is a child. then a man goes into a rant about how he was in the courts and it has taken his life away and how the children and for the children’s misfortune and his he blames the individual workers of “that system”. all in all after Jarndyce’s inquiry with the children he leaves them alone because he some how sees this as being fit for them....

im not done yet...

4 comments:

  1. When Mr. Badge said this I felt that by saying that she married these great men and then she married him it kind of made him feel more important. As if saying after she married them, these great guys she felt that I was worth her or a better choice, like a step up with every marriage. Its like that cliché tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are. His predecessors were great so he must be great too.
    About Jarndyce not telling Ada and Richard no to their relationship: I think that he just did not want to loose them and telling them okay was a way for him to keep them in his life. Like when you tell a teenager no they will just do it anyway and resent you for saying no. Ada and Richard would have cut, emotional, ties with him if he said no. Them being young he might have felt that their love is just a crush and it will fade soon so saying yes was a way of giving them time to figure things out, if he said no they might have rushed into something from what they might not be able to get out.

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  2. I also believe that Nemo's significance will show as we read further into the book. I do not think that Dicken would name a chapter called "Our beloved brother" and talk mainly about Nemo's death if he was indeed a nobody. I also believe that Jo could not have been the only person to know Nemo because if two "nobodies" know each other then what would be the point in writing about them. That is why I believe that either Nemo or Jo has something to do with the Jarndyce and Jarndyce case.

    In the situation with Ada and Richard I believe that although Esther may have already assumed that they belonged together she did not know for sure. In order for her to know that they wanted to be together Ada had to confess her tue feeelings for Richard. I also agree with Ilona that Jarndyce agreed with Ada aand Richard's relationship because he did not want them to stray away from him emotionally. When a teen is told that they cannot be with the person who they love, they do stray away from they adult figure who tells them that they cannot be with their love.

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  3. I think one way of reading the Mrs. Badger's-multiple-husbands thing AND the Richard thing is through the lens of identity. In some way, this whole novel is about identity. It begins with a society in an identity crisis (will it be a degenerating, uncaring society or one that recognizes the changes in it and works to solve its problems?) as well as with a young, female narrator who is just finding her way (and voice -- see Melissa's blog post and following comments). Mr. Badger doesn't know what it means to be her third husband (are people interchangeable?). Richard doesn't know what it means to have made this promise to Ada (and Jarndyce). What other examples can you think of?

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  4. I like that Caddy is finding her own way out of the mess she is in. She is trying to be a lady, and seems really happy in learning how to be a good wife for her fiancee. The only thing is that her future husband does everything his father tells him to do, just as Caddy does. The only difference is that Caddy hates working for her mother, while Prince Turveydrop does it out of loyalty and admiration. This is pretty ironic to me, and I would love to see what happens to Caddy when she lives with Prince, and he is still being his father's puppet.

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